The Clash? I like the Clash--well, I don't hate the Clash. It's hard to say sometimes, because it still feels weird listening to music that hasn't come out for me yet, and maybe won't 'cuz of the whole different worlds thing.

Well, we're doomed to be being a local band forever but we played this one really great show at the Palace, I could show you the video. And it's not hard to draw an audience around here with the ticking and the boredom.

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